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  1. Nodz86 is offline ____________
     
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    Default Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating

    Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating the 'Ring

    Posted Sep 30th 2008 9:02AM by Jeremy Korzeniewski
    Filed under: Supercars, Nissan, Porsche


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    Sour grapes or legitimate complaint? That's the question we're left pondering after reading that Porsche believes Nissan must have cheated to record its 7:29:03 lap time of the famed Nürburgring race circuit. Porsche claims that it had been suspicious of the Nissan's lap times, so it acquired a U.S.-spec GT-R for testing back-to-back with its own 911 Turbo and GT2. The result? The mighty Godzilla was toppled by the Teutonic German duo, with the GT-R posting times a good 25-seconds slower than Nissan's claim.

    How can Porsche explain the discrepancy? "This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car. For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tires," says August Achleitner, the man in charge of the 911 program. There is footage of the GT-R lapping the 'Ring at high speed, but it's taken from inside the car where the tires cannot be seen.

    Considering the fact that Nissan saw fit to issue a press release commemorating the car's fast-lap, we doubt this is something that will be taken lightly. There's a big can 'o worms here, and Porsche's in the corner holding the opener.

    From Autoblog


  2. Fridge Magnet Rabbit is offline Manchester Racer Kid
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    ouch...
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  3. ExplosiveGoats is offline Car Aficianado
     
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    Didn't see this coming.


  4. HavockJoker is offline PGR4 Master
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    Boooooo *thumbsdown*

    Porsche is a hater.




  5. Mb
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    HAHAHAHA! PWND!

    It doesn't matter how much horsepower your car has, it's about the smile on your face when you drive it.

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    Are they buying a ZR-1 too?

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    Then I woke up in France...

  7. Pherelas is offline I'm Going Slightly mad
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    I'm sure most company's do that don't they, give it every advantage with tires, small amounts of fuel and take out spare wheels and stuff.
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  8. Andreas¹ is offline Crazy Duck
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pherelas
    I'm sure most company's do that don't they, give it every advantage with tires, small amounts of fuel and take out spare wheels and stuff.
    Doesn't that make sense?


  9. RB26DETT is offline Banned
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    oh poo! i bet that 2nd run they did against the 911, they didn't drive the GTR to its full potential or intentionally drove it slower so that their beetle could beat it.

  10. Baltoman is offline Baby Vipah :D
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    a viper pwns both... but still, One day porsche will learn not to underestmate the power of teh Japanese

  11. KoenigseggBG is offline Made in 1994
     
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    Porsche are so mad now that they would do anything to take down the GT-R :P

  12. TDU 505 is offline Clinically Insane
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    They modified a Zonda and plonked a GT-R interior in it. Thats what they did.

  13. DriftNismo is offline 87 Civic GT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get Carter »
    Are they buying a ZR-1 too?

    Probably, and a new Viper. Jesus, they still make tons more money than they need, why do they have to be such sore losers? I've seen all the time they spent testing it 'round the 'ring on BM, it's not like they just got a random taxi driver, stuck him in a GT-R, and took down the first time 'round the 'ring.

  14. HavockJoker is offline PGR4 Master
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltoman »
    a viper pwns both... but still, One day porsche will learn not to underestmate the power of teh Japanese
    Not to burst your bubble by the front splitter and some other parts of Viper ACR are not street legal in the US. So Really the Viper will lose some of its handling characteristics if the drove it at US street trim.

    Probably will still thrash the time but It won't be as fast in some areas.




  15. Baltoman is offline Baby Vipah :D
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    was talking about the normal one (2008 SRT-10) .

  16. HavockJoker is offline PGR4 Master
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltoman »
    was talking about the normal one (2008 SRT-10) .
    O my bad. GTR is still better around a track. Viper is just an insane car.




  17. Baltoman is offline Baby Vipah :D
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    True... =D

  18. kalniel is offline Hypercar Enthusiast
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    The 7:29 time was set by a Japanese stock car and tyres. Why are they surprised that a US stock car (which will have more stringent emissions therefore more restrictive CAT and/or less power and possibly more economic tyres) is slower?

  19. Nodz86 is offline ____________
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel »
    The 7:29 time was set by a Japanese stock car and tyres. Why are they surprised that a US stock car (which will have more stringent emissions therefore more restrictive CAT and/or less power and possibly more economic tyres) is slower?
    To add to that am I also right in saying that as all GT-R engines are hand made that they all have different bhp. so the one round the 'ring may have had a bit more bhp than the one porsche got

  20. kalniel is offline Hypercar Enthusiast
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    That's what I'd heard as well nodz.


 
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