View Poll Results: 'the banner contest' #85 Poll (you can vote for a MAX of 3 entries)

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  • 1) nfsMIB

    5 20.83%
  • 2) mau92

    3 12.50%
  • 3) Loekie5500

    5 20.83%
  • 4) Andreas¹

    0 0%
  • 5) Ryzza5

    1 4.17%
  • 6) TimBud

    5 20.83%
  • 7) Paladin Skylark

    1 4.17%
  • 8) hassan1995

    11 45.83%
  • 9) Rassva

    11 45.83%
  • 10) Eeshan

    2 8.33%
  • 11) Ozzmcom

    5 20.83%
  • 12) robillard3381

    5 20.83%
  • 13) carlos69

    2 8.33%
  • 14) TIMELESS

    5 20.83%
  • 15) superhyper

    4 16.67%
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  1. The Compensator is offline Future heel&toe historian
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mau92 »
    (Caterham, Lotus, Jaguar, AM, Mini, TVR, MG, Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, McLaren... Am I missing something?)
    I bet if calster was around, he'd immediately shout ROVER out loud


  2. TimBud is offline brmm
     
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    Holy Crap guys... this place hasn't much.
    I completely forgot about all the BS these comps come with.... how thoroughly disappointing.

    PLEASE clarify the entry restrictions first rather then in hindsight.

    Its already been said here that most entries here are not actually British, so I'm struggling not to feel singled out here

    Although you're all forgetting that no one ever votes for me anyway
    Last edited by TimBud; 03/02/17 at 08:43 AM.


  3. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    Ok, so, i'd like to give my view on this.

    In my humble opinion, i believe that what is lacking is common sense. What is the real porpouse of these banner contests? It is to refresh the banner image. Period. It's not the competition, and it's not the theme, those two things are secondary, that we make for fun. If it's for fun, why take it so seriously and not with a grain of salt?

    What we can't do though is pick in one theme, that is "seen" as complicated and not pick on another that "seens" easier. Every theme will have loopholes, every theme can be complex. We can't play with "2 weights, 2 measures" (Not sure if you guys heard this expression, but it means take 2 things that are the same, differently) Specially because we all may see and understand things differently. For some, Ford Europe can not be classified as british, for some, it can, but in fact now that a lot of cars are not built in their manufactor origin place. The point is, we must play this with common sense.

    Let the person who picked the theme actually decide, even if you don't agree with his opinion about a Ford Europe being british or not. And if you don't really understand the theme and has to "play it safe", so be it. If you want to risk, go on too, but as said, it's taking a risk. And if your image is not accepted by the person who picked the theme, either you take another photo or if you can't be arsed, you drop off that round. It's not much of a big deal.

    Either we start to take this with a grain of salt, or we will need to have themes with big texts, explaining what is and what is not allowed.

  4. hassan1995 is offline ( •_•)( •_•)>⌐■-■(⌐■_■)
     
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    I genuinely can't see what's so hard about following the rules, like come on guys it's you lot blowing things out of proportion, can't we have one simple happy competition.


  5. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hassan1995 »
    I genuinely can't see what's so hard about following the rules, like come on guys it's you lot blowing things out of proportion, can't we have one simple happy competition.
    Issue starts when everyone sees the theme "differently". Which is natural, imo.

  6. Ryzza5 is offline .
      
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    is't that the idea behind rule #1 "Stick to the implied theme (don't look for loopholes)" - we're looking for the best photo, not the best loophole.

    Following the theme was a suggested list of manufacturers, not models, so it's reasonable to stick to that pattern.

    Maybe we just need really specific themes like "orange RWD vehicles that are airborne with sunny weather and palm trees in the background"

  7. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    You see, that's the thing. Theme says British Cars, not brands. Imo, it's easier to leave to the person who picked the theme to decide. You take your photo as you understood and it's fine.

    Edit: Even that theme can be "complex".

    Sunny weather for british people is different than sunny weather for people who live in tropical countries. Orange can be discussed, untill which point a shade of orange is acceptable and it doesn't turn red or yellow? Also, colorblind?

    The point is, having a theme with a description is only necessary if people don't want to use their common sense. It is necessary when people forget that this is primarilly made for fun. The main reason is to pick a new banner, everything else is secondary.
    Last edited by Milli; 03/02/17 at 12:51 PM.

  8. Ryzza5 is offline .
      
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    btw free rep to anyone who manages to get a photo matching that fake theme

  9. mau92 is offline Car Aficianado
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzza5 »

    Following the theme was a suggested list of manufacturers, not models, so it's reasonable to stick to that pattern.
    Exactly, by doing I was trying to avoid this whole thing that we are pointlessly discussing right now. Of course every single car is not made in the country the brand is from. I drive a Mexican-built Ford, streets are flooded with brazilian VWs and Fiat, hell even the VW Amarok, sold in Germany is made in Argentina, Toyota builds its trucks in USA (The Tacoma)... So what's the point? By "cars" it's supposed to be "manufacturer" because if you ask anyone they will have no clue where the cars actually comes from or who owns said brand. I thought it was not difficult the examples made it clear...

  10. Diablo is offline I'm Delicious!
     
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    I have updated the theme to be British Manufacturers as that is what the original intention was. Unfortunately it's too easy for people to make their own conclusions and that is of no fault to them, it's the way the mind works after all. We do however need to start being somewhat clearer on what the theme expects, so that we can stop having these back and forths.

    And before anyone kicks off the whole 'Blah is owned by X', look at the little descriptor by mau below it.
    I'm a bit mental.

  11. robillard3381 is offline :)
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    Wow I didn't think that this easy theme would be so discussed!
    btw, this is an ENTRY POST

    British enough?

  12. Loek is offline Alleged estate fetishist
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    McLaren has been working with BMW in the past. Which means McLaren is technically German. I'd disallow it. :P


    FH3 on Xbox. Xbox username is PoIestar, with a capital "i" as "L". Wanna add me, you're welcome to do so.

  13. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loekie5500 »
    McLaren has been working with BMW in the past. Which means McLaren is technically German. I'd disallow it. :P
    Please, don't

    Absolutely the most super of all the non-super moderators Your friendly community moderator.

  14. Loek is offline Alleged estate fetishist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Microphone »
    Please, don't
    This one was hard to find, okay? I could also disqualify myself, with a car that has a Yamaha engine used in a Volvo...


    FH3 on Xbox. Xbox username is PoIestar, with a capital "i" as "L". Wanna add me, you're welcome to do so.

  15. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    As i said and will repeat, either we play using common sense, with a grain of salt, or we will need to have themes with thesis to describe them. And i think we should stick with the first case, since the theme is not the main thing of this competition.

  16. TimBud is offline brmm
     
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    Ok, just to clarify, as some of the posts here have quite an accusatory tone that can only be directed at me.

    I did not seek to exploit a loophole, I just entered with a car that I consider to be British (it wasn't merely built in Dagenham) and it was after that entry that some people kicked off and inferred that some underhand crime had been committed.
    Mau seemed to initially accept the entry but was later pressured to give more detailed list clarifying the rules.

    Posting a shot of something different does not automatically guarantee a victory does it, as the quality and composition of the shot have an arguably bigger role to play in that decision.

    In future please can these specificities be clarified in the rules before the competition goes live otherwise you'll always have someone that enters something that doesn't fit within your interpretation.
    But also, if an entry is submitted the rules should not be adjusted after that... you should all be well aware how much effort goes into producing theses shots and should understand the frustration of having to go though it all again... because of something that should have been in the rules right from the beginning.



  17. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    The Escort is fine, imo.

  18. TimBud is offline brmm
     
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    I always like you Milli


  19. Diablo is offline I'm Delicious!
     
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    You are completely right Tim and it is why from now on I will aim to make sure that the theme is fairly clear in what it's looking for so this doesn't keep happening. I can understand why people brought it up and it is a shame cause your shot is a damn nice one. But at the same time I can see how people could flaunt it and basically post any car that is seen to be British which would open up a whole world of brain pain.

    I appreciate your understanding though, shows your good character that, and like I said we'll make sure things like this do not happen as it takes away the fun of what this contest is meant to be.

    Even after all our time, it's never too late to learn new things.
    I'm a bit mental.

  20. Milli is offline An eternal apprentice.
     
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    I still think it's easier to ask people to actually chill about this. Come on guys, do we really need to be this picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by TimBud »
    I always like you Milli
    You're such a rare breed.


 
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