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  1. Camel is offline Legendary Classic
      
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    All I can say is wow.

    Well, that was a lie but we've all had bad days at the office so to speak and imo he didn't deserve this. "There were other reasons" sure, and Pigs can fly.

    Having said that, it will be interesting to see what Verstappen can do in the RB and to be able to compare his performances to Ricciardos.


  2. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Yeah I do not for one minute think the Sainz/Verstappen thing is true. If it was, manage your god damn drivers Toro Rosso, I'd imagine the rivalry between Hamilton and Rosberg last year was much worse and you didn't see one of them getting the sack.

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  3. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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    Then at least this move is thanks to the next reasons, as mentioned by Sport Bild after an interview with Helmut Marko himself:

    - Kvyat was in the shadow of the much better and more constant performing Ricciardo. He put too much pressure on himself to try and become better, and failed doing so.
    - RB's and TR's teams are contracted by Red Bull, not by the racing teams. This allows for easier moving of drivers between the teams.
    - Kvyat is still considered too good to be kicked out of the Red Bull racing teams family.

    Combining points above, they were able to keep him within the ''family'' by putting him in the other team, while also giving him a more relaxed mindset. This is also confirmed by Christian Horner who said Kvyat has a change to proof his potential again in a team he's familiar with, in order to get back into shape.

    Max Verstappen in the mean time has a great potential, and bringing him to the A-team might be the only way to keep him within the "family" despite the pull from Ferrari and Mercedes.

    Source (german): http://sportbild.bild.de/motorsport/...828.sport.html

  4. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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    No tensions?

    Max Verstappen's former race engineer Xevi Pujolar has confirmed his departure from Toro Rosso, as revealed by Motorsport.com earlier.

    In the wake of Verstappen's switch to Red Bull, and talk of tension between the Dutchman and team-mate Carlos Sainz, Toro Rosso chiefs have moved to reshuffle its staff too.
    It has been decided that Pujolar will be departing the team, which he joined after spells at Jaguar, Hispania and Williams.
    The move comes after reports of an argument between Pujolar and Toro Rosso team boss Franz Tost at the Russian Grand Prix.
    In a tweet sent on Thursday night, Pujolar said he was now looking forward to his next challenge.

    Pujolar confirms split with Toro Rosso

  5. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLR-GTR »
    Combining points above, they were able to keep him within the ''family'' by putting him in the other team, while also giving him a more relaxed mindset. This is also confirmed by Christian Horner who said Kvyat has a change to proof his potential again in a team he's familiar with, in order to get back into shape.
    They can say whatever they want, this is nothing but public humiliation for Kyvat.

    As for the tensions mentioned, I still refuse to believe it's a simple Kyvat-Sainz tension (or between their respective teams), there's obviously been a lot of tensions going on behind the scenes but I don't think it's as straight forward as they'd have us believe.

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  6. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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  7. Camel is offline Legendary Classic
      
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    4th. What a noob.

    Hamilton had better get a good start, not get crashed into or have some sort of failure on his car tomorrow.

  8. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Great race

    Looking forward to seeing the aftermath of that Merc implosion.

    Congrats to Max, that really is a fantastic result. It's a bit bittersweet as I'd have loved Ricciardo to win as he's such a great guy but it's good to see Max's career take off, I think he's got a bright future ahead.

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  9. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel »
    4th. What a noob.
    U wot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camel »
    Hamilton had better get a good start, not get crashed into or have some sort of failure on his car tomorrow.
    Well....erm... you didn't pay him enough so he decided not to take your advice.

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    Best race in ages. Verstappen did an amazing job under pressure from Kimi and I have to say that even as a diehard Kimi fan, I'm not disappointed with the result. After all, Ferrari got a double podium. I wouldn't mind more races like this, if only Ferrari could up their game to properly challenge Mercedes like this. My heart was racing for basically half the race

    Also, Ricciardo seems to have taken some classes in the Red Bull Torpedo Academy as well

  11. Camel is offline Legendary Classic
      
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLR-GTR »
    U wot?
    Me what.

    His win was kinda gifted to him on a plate. No Mercs to win the race, Ferrari weren't all that fast(Did Kimi even make 1 attempt to get along side/pass him?) and RB screwed Ricciardo over with the strategy and then he got a puncture. All Verstappen had to do was drive around the track and not fall off of it. You know, like Hamilton and Rosberg do but you give them crap for it all the time.

    It's great for Verstappen and I'm happy for him. It's a day he and his family will never forget. Was also a good race on a track where races can be quite dull to watch a lot of the time.

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    For those who missed it


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    Me:



  14. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzza5 »
    For those who missed it
    Good analysis.

    Chris Harris is blaming Rosberg, Jason Plato is also blaming Rosberg. I think the more people are watching the video and knowing about Rosberg's mode setting mistake they're starting to side with Hammy.

    I'm happy for Verstappen and he did do well under pressure but I can't seem to warm to him just yet, I think his behaviour in Australia might have something to do with that. Similar entitled petulant behaviour to that which is making me dislike Hammy and Rosberg.

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  15. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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    Rosberg was to blame for having the wrong setting activated:

    Revealed: The switch error that triggered the Rosberg/Hamilton crash

  16. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Interesting testing going on at Williams:



    That rear wing would not be legal in 2016, but I wonder if it's something that might be possible in 2017?

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  17. Camel is offline Legendary Classic
      
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    Looks a bit like something you'd see on the back of a 17 year olds Vauxhall Corsa.

    And because I'm 10 years behind all the cool kids.


  18. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    It's not really anything that new to F1, look at the '93 Williams:


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  19. The Compensator is offline Future heel&toe historian
     
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    got nothing on this


  20. CLR-GTR is offline Bunchie farmer
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    Plenty of room for my Merc books and brochures.



    Anybody can tell me how unreliable/unrepresentative test session results are? I'm asking because of this:





    Honestly though, I'm a bit of a noob in this, it's already a whole lot of something that I watched last race from start till end.


 
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