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    Wouldn't they take a plane?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzza5 »
    Wouldn't they take a plane?
    Or helicopter I still think the issue of range when it comes to cars you are driven in, albeit a Limo or Taxi etc, is yet to be solved.

    Tesla Superchargers might be quick, but If i were wealthy, snobby, busy and stressed about deadlines there's no way I'd put myself in a situation where I had to sit in the back of a stationary Tesla or whatever for 30 mins +.

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    Thanks Mike for telling me about this thread. o/

    Drive Your Classic Car - Jalopnik

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  4. The Compensator is offline Future heel&toe historian
     
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    Amazing photography. Worth checking out. Here's Palm Springs In All Its Nighttime Glory - Petrolicious

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    Absolutely stunning. Out of this world stunning.

    The most shocking thing for me was how exotic that 911 looked in that setting, I imagine it was rather exotic at the time those images are meant to replicate but still, it looks so cool (as does every single car there tbf).

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  6. Microphone is offline #Myk2016
       
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    Holy Model Bloat, The Porsche Cayman Got Huge



    image from Owen Ready on Instagram

    Quote Originally Posted by Jalopnik
    • The Mercedes is 174 inches long, the Porsche is 172.
    • The Mercedes is 54 inches tall, the Porsche is 51.
    • The Mercedes is 66 inches wide, the Porsche is 70.
    • The Mercedes has a 104-inch wheelbase, the Porsche’s measures 97.
    Jesus, that really is eye-opening. Safety has definitely come at a cost.

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    Why We Abandoned A Car After A 3,700-Mile Drive From Europe To Asia

    This great story was just posted on jalopnik. Proper Topgear-esque stuff without trying to be it. What makes the story even more interesting is that Gawker/Jalopnik closed down the journalist's Hungarian office with little to no notice after the Hulk Hogan lawsuit. He was treated awfully, and is seemingly a rather good auto journalist.

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    Naturally Hans is wet, he’s standing under a waterfall.


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    Looks like someone finally pleaded guilty to the VW Dieselgate scandal in USA

    VW engineer pleads guilty to conspiracy in emissons scandal

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    I hope they don't try and make him a scapegoat, people much higher up the food chain deserve fairly huge consequences for this and it wouldn't surprise me if the lower-down engineers get a lot of the blame.

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  11. The Compensator is offline Future heel&toe historian
     
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    McLaren design chief reveals truth - motoring.com.au

    Stephenson on spy pics and prototypes.

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    403, good story, motoring!

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    WORKS FOR ME

    Many spy pics published by media outlets around the world – including this one – are not quite the cat-and-mouse game of opportunistic snapping we’re led to believe, says McLaren design director Frank Stephenson.In Australia for the official opening of a new McLaren dealership in Melbourne, Stephenson confirmed to motoring.com.au that disguised cars circulating the Nordschleife are often out there for the purpose of a long-lead PR campaign ahead of the car’s inevitable debut at one of the big European motor shows – Geneva, Frankfurt or Paris.

    When motoring.com.au put it to Stephenson that ‘testing’ a car at the Nurburgring – a known hot-spot for spy photographers – would be stupid unless the car company’s intention were to set tongues wagging ahead of the new car’s global unveiling, the McLaren design boss answered with one word: “Exactly.”
    “Most spy shots are just leaked photos from the company…” he said. Even though the spy photographers are out there in the elements all hours of the day (and occasionally after nightfall), Stephenson insinuates they’re being played by marketing execs at the car companies. Sometimes the car companies forego all pretense, even letting reviewers drive pre-production models that are still wearing their cladding.
    And Stephenson speaks with some authority on the subject, boasting a CV that any designer would be proud to call their own. He started out working with Ford on some of the design details for the Escort Cosworth (notably the bi-plane rear spoiler), before moving to BMW, where he led the team that designed the original R50 MINI. He subsequently worked on the Maserati MC12, Ferrari F430 and 612 Scaglietti, before joining McLaren in 2008. Over the course of his career he has also designed the Alfa-Romeo MiTo, the Fiat 500 and the original BMW X5.
    If anyone would know when to arrange for a vehicle to be caught out in the open (as opposed to keeping it behind closed doors), it would be Stephenson.
    The challenge for him at McLaren is more complex than for design bosses at other car companies. Typically, he revealed, McLaren’s concept cars are usually very close to production-ready by the time they hit the stage at an international motor show. So the show car is already generating intense interest while the prototypes and pre-production models are still undergoing durability testing.
    “The P1 that we’ve shown in Paris – the orange one – that was basically our production car,” he said. “We had to black out the windows so that nobody could see inside the car and see that it was a production car.”
    Thus, there’s little reason for McLaren to strategically roll out a test vehicle with carefully chosen camouflage to provide just enough grist for the spy snapper’s art. Anything to cover up on the outside is almost certainly identical to what’s already been seen on the show car.
    That’s not to say that McLaren spy photos don’t exist, but they are few and far between.
    “So I’m going to tell you all our secrets… between 12 and 1:00am we usually drive on this certain road that nobody ever goes to…” he answered with a laugh when asked about McLaren’s test procedures and evading spy photographers.
    Stephenson says McLaren conducts most of its pre-production testing in very secure facilities – and the Nordschleife doesn’t seem to meet the criteria of ‘secure’.
    “The Nordschleife is great, because it does give you the potential to test out real road conditions and exaggerated road conditions, but we don’t really use the Nordschleife too much for production-car testing.”
    “Basically I think all our testing is done in a very secure place in Spain, called IDIADA. That’s a very tight security development area for testing new products. We have some areas in England like Dunsfold – what used to be the Top Gear test track…
    “[For] The road testing we actually do have to get road experience with a car. That’s the typical Sweden/Arctic Circle, Death Valley in the US approach, but then the cars are highly camouflaged, so we’ve tried to keep it disguised so nobody knows what we’re coming up with. That’s typical automotive [industry] approach.”
    The interesting point about spy photos is that a facelifted model or a carefully built mule could pass for a current production car, if not for the camouflage. It’s all the ‘bra and panties’ stuff that draws attention to a car.
    As a postscript, not all spy photo opportunities are carefully manipulated ploys by evil PR geniuses.
    This case, for instance, was clearly a nasty surprise for Renault engineers in far north Queensland. And this case earned motoring.com.au quite a rebuke from Holden PR staff at the time. By the time the VF Commodore was months away from launch all the testing was done under cover, even within the secure confines of the Lang Lang proving ground.

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    Ye now it works for me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jalopnik
    The Alleged CIA Agent Kurt Busch Dated And Reportedly Abused Now Allegedly Stole From Charity


    The Alleged CIA Agent Kurt Busch Dated And Reportedly Abused Now Allegedly Stole From Charity

    Just in case you needed a reminder of just how dull F1 is, this Nascar drama is rather interesting

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    Just when Dieselgate decided to lay low for a while... yeahhhh no such luck. Süddeutsche Zeitung (South-German Newspaper) says they own various correspondance which are currently being investigated by Jones Day, some American lawyer firm. Based on those pieces, they are concluding that not VW but Audi is responsible for the cheatsoftware development, as an Audi manager would have clearly stated they múst cheat in order to pass ever stricter emission regulations.

    It ain't over, not yet...

    Sources: Audi tief in VW-Abgasaffddeutsche.de (German)

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    VW have announced they'll be cutting 23,000 jobs in Germany between now and 2020 to save money due to the emissions scandal. Between this and them pulling out of some Motorsports... they seem to be hurting quite badly.

    Volkswagen plans 23,000 job cuts in Germany - BBC News

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    I hope that hashtag is insincere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzza5 »
    I hope that hashtag is insincere.
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